00:25:18 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Find out more about this session's sponsor Lovell Later Living: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/HLIN_Summit_2024/sponsors/lovell-later-living/ 00:34:16 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: More about the Taskforce can be found at: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/News/Government-announces-group-of-experts-for-Older-Peoples-Housing-Task-Force/ 00:55:53 Tony Johnson: HOUSING We need to build more homes to address the excess of demand over supply that has caused the average house price rising from 4 times average earnings 50 years ago to about 8 currently so as to reduce that multiple over a period. This would reduce the housing element within the cost of living. Index ie house prices, mortgage interest and rents for families particularly in privately rented accommodation. More affordable housing is required for the lower income groups as is appropriate accommodation for older people. Accommodation for Older People The percentage of the population over 65 has increased from 16.4% to 18.6% in the last ten years so we do feel that we should be focusing on building appropriate older people housing including those with dementia in appropriate locations and the benefits of an increased supply of public sector sheltered accommodation similar to the McCarthy & Stone model though with dining facilities and health and social care on-site would include: 00:57:13 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Check out Bob's Housing LIN guest blog, 'Designing a neighbourhood for connectedness': https://www.housinglin.org.uk/blogs/Designing-a-neighbourhood-for-connectedness/ 00:59:59 Tony Johnson: Such schemes would result in: a. A reduction in the numbers needing to go to A&E and speeding the discharge from hospital saving NHS and social care money. b. The partners could continue to live together and support each other. c. A reduction in the numbers going into care homes saving council money for residents unable to pay the full cost. Too many are being discharged from hospital and sent to nursing homes due to a shortage of supported tenancies. d. Far quicker reallocation of the accommodation in the public as compared with the private sector, where owners are required to continue to pay service charges and council tax until the property is sold ie after moving on to a nursing home or dying. Some providers require sellers to pay up to 20% of the sale price to them. Some properties take extended periods to sell including a delay due to probate on death. 01:00:15 Tony Johnson: Much needs to be done to increase the supply of affordable homes in areas where people want to live and work. Planning reforms will be needed to allow this to happen. New policies are sloe required to encourage the building of new “green” housing and the retrofitting of greener energy solutions to existing housing. 01:00:35 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Picking up Mary's point about lifelong living, this echoes a Housing LIN viewpoint on lifelong neighbourhoods by a former conference speaker published over 10 years ago! https://www.housinglin.org.uk/Topics/type/Lifelong-neighbourhoods-How-older-people-can-add-value/ 01:05:22 Maggie Gilbert: Bob is SO right!!!! Characterful and opportunities for adhoc social interaction is infinitely more attractive as an option! 01:07:00 Norma Raynes: so some good things happen in Shropshire. could these be transferred to some of the new developments in cities like Manchester, Birmingham and London . Who would Bob Tomlinson and Housing Lin have to speak to to get this to happen 01:08:23 Norma Raynes: absolutely needs to be intergenerational it is a natural thing 01:09:17 Maggie Gilbert: Hooray! Someone insisting that intergenerational is vital! 01:10:04 Norma Raynes: it is the only way forward ! 01:10:44 Maggie Gilbert: We're all on your team Bob!! 01:10:53 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Bob referred to almshouses, a good link to our next speaker, Alex Ely, but also the Housing LIN's dedicated webpage at: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/Topics/browse/Housing/HousingforOlderPeople/Almshouses/ 01:14:16 Sue Missin: The Almshouse Consortium has a contract in place for 2021 - 26 with Homes England to allow Almshouses across England to access grant to support newbuild or remodelling. We have worked with an Almshouse Charity in city centre Manchester to provide new Almshouses using MMC. The Homes are for below market rent and do not offer RTB or RTSO so offering rent in perpetuity - Saffer Cooper are a Programme Manager for the Almshouse Consortium 01:15:49 Stephanie Baxter: @SueMissin i would like to hear more about this consortium agreement with HE please stephanie.baxter@essex.gov.uk 01:18:33 Wendy Twist: Is it possible to get a copy of Alex's slides? I would really like to see the slide that shows impact of the built environment on health and also the one that shows the aim to push 'close care' to the last 3 months of life. Is that possible? wendyjtwist@gmail.com 01:19:45 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Hi Wendy, of course, all slides and the recording from today's session will be uploaded on this event's webpage next week: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/HLIN_Summit_2024/programme/creating-vibrant-later-living-homes-and-communities/ 01:20:08 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: The John Morden Centre: An award-winning place of hope during a social care crisis: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/Topics/type/The-John-Morden-Centre-An-award-winning-place-of-hope-during-a-social-care-crisis/ 01:24:07 Gita Prasad: This is reminding me of The Hogeweyk, the dementia village in The Netherlands. 01:24:19 Abdul A Ravat: I think this is a bit simplistic. Your lived in reality and ability to age well and live better - economic, social, emotional will inevitably have a profound impact as you approach the elder years. For example there is a 10-12 years difference in life expectancy for someone living in Manningham compared to Ilkley which are 5 miles apart. To suggest that all that indifference, inequity, financial harship is suddenly going to disappear once you reach the twilight years is simply too simplistic. Structural inequality, economic harship and health disparaties need to be considered much earlier in our housing planning and not just suddenly awaken as we come to terms to an ageing and diverse demographic. 01:24:23 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Alex referred to a past paternalistic approach to almshouses, the Housing LIN wrote this report for the Almshouse Association about almshouses for the 21st Century https://www.housinglin.org.uk/Topics/type/Almshouses-for-the-21st-century-transformation-in-progress/ 01:28:17 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Thank you, Gita for your reference to De Hogeweyk. Read Gita's blog on 'Communal and intergenerational living in the Netherlands and Denmark' here: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/blogs/Communal-and-intergenerational-living-in-the-Netherlands-and-Denmark/ 01:30:44 Alison Pooley: might also be of interest: https://www.rics.org/news-insights/research-and-insights/almshouses--a-model-of-community-housing-for-an-ageing-populatio 01:32:13 Norma Raynes: why not use the engagement model in the older peoples inquiry into that bit of help? 01:39:25 Sue Missin: Unfortunately the research from Shelter and Nat Fed isn't new - In 1850's Titus Salt building Saltaire near Bradford recognised the benefits of providing quality homes for the workers at the Mill to improve productivity . We start with great aspirations but then have to reduce the specifications to be able to access funding and make the scheme viable now not thinking of the long term value for the homes being part of community infrastructure 01:40:01 Norma Raynes: Paula is right about the savings 01:41:04 sshp01lp: Funding can also dictate age criteria. One of my schemes can only take over 55s as that was a funding requirement so this stops intergenerational living in that scheme. 01:48:22 Adam.Driscoll (LB Barnet): Would really value perspective on optimal sizing for these communities, and whether that is different in rural, suburban town centre and more urban context....etc. 01:55:09 Sally Taylor-Ridgway | Housing LIN: Thank you for joining today’s session! The recording, slides and chat report will be available next week. In the meantime, find out what else is taking place this week: https://www.housinglin.org.uk/HLIN_Summit_2024/programme/ 01:56:03 Janet Sutherland: Excellent session, many thanks 01:56:40 Gita Prasad: Thanks for an excellent session.